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Post by nightdriver on Aug 29, 2010 1:44:37 GMT -5
Last week I was cruising the Rants and Raves section of Sacramento Craigslist, I'm not sure what made me go to this one post, but I'm sorry I did.
The post was a rather poorly done parody of the supposed EAR poem, but I got the message. AND a big time virus, possibly in the picture that was attached. That was just a little too coincidental.
I have saved the post, sans the picture, I have posted it on my little board. If I have time, I'll copy it over to here. But right now I still have to repair my other system.
Our guy would never be so stupid as to make a traceable post, I guess there are quite a few sickos here in Sacramento. But was this creep leaving a hint?? Not many of us really feel that EAR is still around here, but we don't know..
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Post by nightdriver on Aug 29, 2010 18:21:42 GMT -5
Here is that creepy post from Craigslist, read and enjoy, if you can.
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No you are just some backwater jerkwad.Creeper is more of a peeping tom,who prowls at night with the propensity to kill to get what he wants.
Oh, listen to my story:
Life is getting stranger baby.
As we travel on.
People don't know the difference no more between right and wrong.
Say it's going to be a cold dark night when the creeper comes along.
Watch out for the steel blade, baby,
all shiny and long.
Chorus:
I say it's going to be a cold dark night
Oh, when the Creeper come along. Yea.
He's tall, he's short, he's fat, he's thin.
He's out for vengence. He's out to win.
The road he walks is dark and dim.
Don't let him catch you out on a limb.
He'll cut your throat, baby,
He'll stick you in the back.
Drive off in your Cadillac.
He's more trouble than you think.
He'll kill you sugar, leave you in the drink.
Chorus:
Say, it's going to be a cold dark night
Oh, when the creeper comes along.
LEAD BREAK
Molly Hatchet yo!
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Post by guessting on Aug 29, 2010 21:29:10 GMT -5
These are lyrics to the song "The Creeper" by Molly Hatchet.
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Post by nightdriver on Aug 29, 2010 22:33:40 GMT -5
So what? It may still be a message. And there was a virus in the post, that's another message.
Some time back in the Keddie Murders discussion someone posted the lyrics to a song that vmay have been the story of what happened to Tina, some of us do know how to read.
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 12, 2010 22:38:25 GMT -5
I guess the title of this thread fits what I saw last night on the A&E board. I hate to always be so negative, but people like that just bring in out in me.
To me that story is all fabricated, everything in there is all in the public record somewhere. And that's my problem, there is way too much in that post, and it all looks like it fits, TOO WELL.
This is kinda reminicent of "Dingy Dennis," but I doubt it is him. As to a motive for writing a story like that, who cares? As to there being anything to that story, ask SCSO, they probably debunked it within 48 hours. Next real suspect, please...
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Post by guessting on Nov 12, 2010 23:11:48 GMT -5
Nightdriver,
I sure hope you are feeling better? g
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Post by f1guyus on Nov 13, 2010 17:22:08 GMT -5
Nightdriver
Somebody on the other board needs attention. And help.
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 13, 2010 21:21:27 GMT -5
Gee, what's the matter, does the truth hurt? Just a couple of non-responses? That's okay, I have a good idea who that person is, just don't know where she is anymore.
Was she "SuzetteBee"?? Maybe, she is that crazy.
Note to Port: Those three sketches you posted, the center is supposedly from the Sacramento PD, and is? related to a case
As to #24, it was suggested that he chose that one because he was hanging around the apartment complex across the street, That seems to make sense, just another reason to believe that someone still around Sacramento does know who he is, or was.
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Post by portofleith on Nov 14, 2010 7:19:16 GMT -5
Nightdriver,
The comp on the left is from Sacramento also. I believe the one one on the right is San Ramon. Don't you think the two on the left look similar? I wonder why these weren't published instead of the bland May 1977?
Did Dee Manning once live in Sac or is that just rambling?
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 14, 2010 20:47:16 GMT -5
All three have a similar structure, they could be due to the reportee's memory. What I'm keying on is the depiction of the eyes in the center sketch, It's pretty specific, and a little different from the right sketch.
I don't remember much about Ms Manning, the name is very old here in Sacramento my mom had friends with that name back when I was born. It is possible she lived here.
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 14, 2010 22:46:07 GMT -5
For some reason I looked at this link on a Yahoo group, and I spent a few minutes staring at his photo. Notice the bags under his eyes, and his general cranial structure. www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/crime/man-arrested-in-cold-case-killing-11142010It's just a photo to use for reference as to how a person could look like right now. 50 years old? that may rule him out as being the VR, 1980? it isn't that far from LA to Phoenix... |
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 20, 2010 5:20:42 GMT -5
I think that next to last post from jonkat just about put the final nail in his coffin. Sure took him long enough to make a link to Visalia, but only when other people started talking??
There is a website where you can go and read all the rules of dis-information, he's been there.
In my first post I mentioned that there was a photo attached to that CL rant. That photo was a thumbnail that looked like a mugshot. Everything about that thumbnail matches up very well with that avatar that jonkat is using. That person smells...
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Post by guessting on Nov 20, 2010 15:03:08 GMT -5
There is one question that would be the easiest to determine where it all stands with him and that is: Did Manning ever reside in Sac. I heve never seen anything that makes me believe that. I think by now with all the knowledge and individuals who have worked on this case that think that would of been public knowledge. Mannings husband at the time, Brian Kiniry, did not seem to have any property here that I have been able to locate. Time will tell and I don't think it will be long now. I know the detectives who have reviewed the information think he is too young, too tall (at the time) and a few other things too too. They obviously don't rule him out based on those things alone. But..I believe they are moving on..Sounds like he has Whitmeyers ear and no one elses. g
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 20, 2010 21:48:52 GMT -5
That does seem to be the consensus, there were a lot of stories of connections back a few years ago, and that one never came up as I remember.
Visalia as an afterthought may have been a fatal mistake, Dengas did show me her half inch thick file on the happenings down there at the time. But I did notice one thing that I had forgotten, when was Oscar's trial? JUNE, 1976..
Then one other thing I was just reminded of: What happened when the media started reporting about McGowan's visit up here? Supposedly he NEVER hit in his old comfort zones again.
My only hangup is just how could he be such of a ghost in a town of about 22,000?? Maybe he was just coming from somewhere else, like Tulare, Lemoore, Hanford, or Porterville, (home of Rodney B.)??
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 27, 2010 2:18:03 GMT -5
Here is another example of a possible "formula" post. I don't need to tell you who this, the hint is right there, she is all over the Web. Is it possible that someone just lifted her story and modified it slightly? By the way, there seems to be a growing backlash against these "too good to be true" stories.
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I was interested in the Night Stalker case at one point and was corresponding with a couple of people from California concerning the case. There was another man who contacted me one time about one of our local cases, and we got to talking. It turned out this second guy, whom I'll just call by his initials JDR, had been in California during the times of these crimes and had been back here in my area during the time some of our unsolved crimes were comitted. Coincidence? Possibly. There seems to be a lot of that now days. Never the less, I tracked him down. He's in a West Virginia prison right now and has been for the past 3 or 4 years. He'll probably get out within a year or so, and I expect he'll return to California -- where I anticipate the killings and rapes will resume. And by the way, he is about 5' 9", has blue/gray eyes, has tattoos, and is in the right age group to have been the guy they were searching for.
I don't know what his blood type is, but for some reason it seems he once told me he'd been in the Navy when he was younger. I figured this might be where he learned to tie the special knots.
All I know is -- I worked with the two California guys for a long, long time, but when I finally went to all the work of gathering all the information, including the time periods in which JDR was in California, and his current whereabouts, and when I handed over my information that was the end of my conversations with the two California men [one of which was a cop]. Same story all across this nation....... give us your information, get off the property, and keep your mouth shut.
That's okay. It's all documented, and I still have all the records and/or correspondence, and now everyone who visits this page will at least have this guys initials. So if or when the day ever comes that he's actually accused and/or charged with these crimes, everyone can rest assured the authorities knew who he was and where he was long ago. [PS: His last name contains ten letters]
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 27, 2010 2:23:32 GMT -5
And here is another interesting one, this kinda new, but it could fit. One hangup, The Union was never an afternoon daily.
Old 01-11-2007, 07:11 PM
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I live in Sacramento and definitely remember this case. There was a strong rumor (repeat, RUMOR) that the EAR was actually someone in law enforcement who was involved in the investigation. I usually would completely dismiss this idea, but an interesting dynamic is in play with this case - retired local LE who were active while this was ongoing get very confrontational when the case is mentioned in casual conversation. One retired officer told one person, "Do not look into that case - Leave it alone." I find that reaction odd, to say the least.
I do know one citizen who believes to this day that he observed the EAR. The man he says is the EAR was a collector for subscribers to the Sacramento Union, a daily afternoon paper that since folded (and has recently been ressurected as a weekly newpaper). He passed this information to the lead detective on the case, but the detective was killed on-duty about a week later during an unrelated case. The witness does not know if his information ever made it into the case file or if his suspect ever was investigated. He cannot get anyone currently active on this case to verify that they have his info, but they also do not seem that interested in agressively investigating it either.
The sad fact is that Sacramento LE failed to catch this guy and that he "graduated" into a full-fledged serial killer. I do not think that they want to find this guy - they just want everyone to forget about it. Capturing him today will only point out their past failure.
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 27, 2010 2:34:19 GMT -5
And here is a little ditty, I guess everyone has their own little rumor...
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04-30-2007, 01:22 AM
Hueneme Beach, Port Hueneme California-- I think it was 1983 or 1984... a guy was said to have raped and murdered "at least 8 women"... if anyone here is familiar with the case, was he convicted? I can't place the name
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Post by nightdriver on Nov 27, 2010 19:28:55 GMT -5
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