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Post by greg26011979 on Jun 13, 2013 21:03:24 GMT -5
Conversing with Samk from the aetv forum, he raised a point from "ST":
There was a couple who were found to have pieces of rope at their home. Larry Crompton looked in to this, and was told they had a son. The son was away at college. To the best of Samk and Arch's knowledge, the son was never investigated or followed up on
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Post by sandia on Jun 13, 2013 23:33:53 GMT -5
That is really interesting. Can anyone elaborate on if eventually it was followed up on and if not why not? Just having pieces of rope though? I wonder what else made him of interest.
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Post by samk on Jun 13, 2013 23:48:25 GMT -5
I don't know if there is anything here. But every angle of these cases must be looked at again to see if anything was missed. I was thinking about putting a tip in with the Sac Sherrif's office just to get it off of my mind.
This was a criminal who was thinking about 5 steps ahead of LE of the day and era. So anything is possible.
The times of the year when the crimes occured may indicate the criminal was in a post secondary institution. If the criminal was bad at managing time then with the crimes he would not have lasted long in college before being kicked out for not keeping up with assignments, studying and readings. I for one would be afraid to tell my parents that I wasted their money. What do you think?
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Post by sandia on Jun 13, 2013 23:59:11 GMT -5
I don't know, GSK is such an enigma. Did he have inside information etc.? was he just lucky, was he really smart? I know LE is working on some things. I hope they are fruitful and we will have answers one of these days. Of course I want to solve the case for justice for the victims, but I want answers to so many of these questions.
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Post by samk on Jun 14, 2013 0:05:28 GMT -5
I told Arch about my observation just a few days before he left the board. He could not find any information on the case so I don't know if Crompton made it up. He told me that he would get back to me if there is a possibility of a viable suspect.
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Post by truthandsoul on Jun 14, 2013 10:24:40 GMT -5
How about the father? Suppose the wife found it, father denied i and pointed his finger at the son...
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Post by greg26011979 on Jun 14, 2013 10:34:22 GMT -5
I still think at some point he was interviewed by the police, and for whatever reason didn't register on their radar. Burt his name is in records in Sacramento.
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Post by guessting on Jun 16, 2013 12:14:27 GMT -5
That is really interesting. Can anyone elaborate on if eventually it was followed up on and if not why not? Just having pieces of rope though? I wonder what else made him of interest. The family, who were very aware of EAR's presence in their area checked their home over an over again for locked windows, doors, moved items etc. The ropes were found under a couch cushion. The department set up camp and never did catch anyone obviously. I bleieve they spent the following evening in the home. I don't recall about the son in college. I will check on that and get back with you. g
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Post by sandia on Jun 16, 2013 14:23:56 GMT -5
Oh, That's what that was all about!? I remember reading about that in Sudden Terror, but had the impression that GSK had been in their home, I did not know about the son in college. That would be great g if you would check on that. Interesting.
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Post by guessting on Jun 16, 2013 16:04:10 GMT -5
Hi All,
I just got off the phone with Larry Crompton. Here is the how and why of this event regarding the rope.
This family had a friend in Sacramento who had been raped by EAR. So as a ritual every night they checked the locks, they looked under furniture, checked windows and every other security precaution that you can think of.
They did have a son, but the son was away at college and had not been in the home during the time frame that the rope was planted. Their son was checked out by Detective Voorhies. He was checked out for being the EAR and cleared. There were two teams of detectives who spent the next two nights at this home. It was proven that the son COULD NOT OF BEEN IN THE HOME AND PUT THE ROPE THERE.
There were also pictures in a drawer that were rearranged and possibly taken on the same night. (a known ear practice he took photos, tore up photos, took a photo out of an album and placed it behind a couch etc.). This woman had checked under that cushion the night before and the rope was not there. Her husband heard her scream as she found the rope while doing her evening rounds. So that is the information about the rope.
It was believed then that EAR was in that home. It is still believed today that it was EAR in the home. g
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Post by samk on Jun 16, 2013 18:20:46 GMT -5
He was checked out. So back to the drawing board. Thanks guessting and larry for clearing this up.
It does lead to more questions. Two people who were friends. one of them attacked and one of them in the process of being attacked. Is this coincidence or did he know someone, worked with someone or was related to someone that they both knew.
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Post by guessting on Jun 16, 2013 21:46:50 GMT -5
Now..Sam that is the million dollar question. I'll check with Larry and see if they ever saw a connection between the two victims and EAR outside of one being a victim and another a potential victim..g
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Post by greg26011979 on Jun 16, 2013 22:19:36 GMT -5
There are too many things here to just be "coincidences". Take Rapes 1 and 3. I would have to research, but I cannot ever recall too many instances of rape victims living in such close proximity to one another. In the same area, yes. But not a home apart from each other. Those two rapes have always been the ones that have struck me as being the most fertile for leads. Now maybe LE have gone over them again and again, but something about those two just strikes me as having more to them and the EAR than the others.
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